“hold off, So is this a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 103: Dating through Instagram | Autostraddle

This week on “hold off, Is This a romantic date?” we’re joined by Autostraddle tradition editor and my own teasing hero
Shelli Nicole
! Our main subject this week is actually Online dating via Instagram therefore get into all the particulars of that which was voted by a jury of us to be the ideal queer online dating software.

Shelli stocks the woman knowledge and confidence. We express my personal wisdom and neuroses. And Christina is an extremely suitable pupil — and course clown. And also to begin us off we perform a game title of warning flags, an individual attack on us.

SHOW RECORDS

+ these are red flags, I think about this quotation from

BoJack Horseman

on a regular basis:

+ The following is
Shelli’s article
about the woman cellphone that will continue to leave me in awe.

+ This was my personal crazy quarantine
Instagram article
that worked extremely well. (She turned out to be a Libra.)

+
My personal Kesha ballad playlist
!!

+
The solitary
Shelli pointed out by Lex Amor.

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Shelli:

Basically in the morning getting together with some one and I’m uploading — particularly when I’m sure that We uploaded some thing in which We seem so excellent that time, and you indicate it has already been up right here for four-hours and I’ve already been scrolling along with your little ass has not looked at it however? Preciselywhat are you doing?

Theme tune performs

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

I’m Christina.

Drew:

And welcome to

Wait, Is It a Date?

Christina:


Hold off, Is It a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast all about online dating.

Drew:

Where we ask practical question, “Wait, is this a night out together?”

Christina:

Like, is this a romantic date?

Drew:

It’s an essential concern in queer neighborhood, I think.

Christina:

It’s a question that people’re perhaps not asking adequate, some might state. I believe reports have, research are hot, and they’re stating, “do not know. We simply don’t know.” Drew, you intend to inform individuals who you really are?

Drew:

I’m called Drew Gregory, I’m an author for Autostraddle and I also’m a filmmaker, and that I’m a trans woman, and a lesbian, and a dyke, and a faggot.

Christina:

That’s just therefore tight. I’m Christina Tucker, I am additionally an author at Autostraddle. I am method of like a deranged queer on line. For fun, recently i learned that I don’t know how to lace up sneakers, that has been something we learned about myself personally nowadays. Really a great journey become on. I also in the morning a lesbian, i will be a Black lesbian. Additionally types of a faggot, let’s not pretend.

Drew:

Quite definitely therefore.

Christina:

Like let’s be honest, let’s be honest. Ended up being I paying attention to a live version of “For Good” like three mere seconds before we hopped onto this tracking? No one can say without a doubt. There is proof excepting the picture we sent Drew, but there’s no proof it.

Drew:

Yeah, I was gonna say, i will say for sure. I’m able to state for sure.

Christina:

Reasonable adequate. Do you wish to play a game, Drew?

Drew:

Oh my personal God, I would personally love to play a game title.

Christina:

Okay, which means this online game — we had a really focused game at me last week.

Drew:

It really is genuine.

Christina:

Which had been extremely enjoyable, so we believed you need to target Drew.

Drew:

Oh kid.

Christina:

Referring to called “warning flag.” Thus I’m attending describe a discussion, just a little situation, a person, a second in Drew’s matchmaking, and I also’m simply planning provide, we’re merely probably read this little union so there’s going to end up being several warning flag which come upwards, and we alsowill see what will be the red flag that makes Drew state, “i am away, I got to call it.”

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

In my opinion it is going to happen. I’m interested to see if it can happen.

Drew:

Into The framework, We’ll let you start, easily require more context I’ll—

Christina:

No, in the event that you, no i understand you like context so what framework do you want? Because I have plenty of it, jot it.

Drew:

I would like all of it.

Christina:

You prefer all of it, okay. So that you were on an online dating application, it doesn’t matter which one. You see a hot woman, you are like, “Yeah, this is the stuff I really like.” She’s had gotten an excellent bio, its quick, it really is to the stage, you guys matched, she messages you quickly. You’re already into that. Everybody’s shocked. You really have great banter and she asks for your own quantity then texts and right away says, “Do you want to meet for a drink this monday?” Whoa, this is certainly hot. This might be hot material. All of you get together, the vibes are good. Here’s your first warning sign, she uses your message “wanderlust” in actuality.

Drew:

I am going to say that i will stay on this go out because I have remained on dates with people exactly who go to Burning Man. Thus, let us keep it going.

Christina:

Why don’t we keep it heading. She’s an Aquarius.

Drew:

Okay. Oh, that is another red flag.

Christina:

You’re still in. Ok last one, we’re simply browsing strike warning flag today.

Drew:

I’m in all honesty not afraid of this whatsoever. Which, it really is a warning sign in the sense it should always be a red-flag for me personally because my mommy’s an Aquarius, my ex is an Aquarius, they’d alike birthday, a great deal to unpack there. I’ve mentioned that I could be done with Aquariuses, but as well, We clearly like Aquariuses, thus.

Christina:

Okay, so weare going to excersice on. Yeah, that’s fine.

Drew:

Hold off, hold off, i’ve a concern. Really, perhaps you’ll reach this, exactly what is actually their exact birthday? It Isn’t Really—

Christina:

I didn’t comprise an exact birthday for this person.

Drew:

Okay, cool, assuming that it’s not March fourth.

Christina:

It isn’t, and that I did know this about you and that I was actually wanting to recall the mommy’s birthday celebration, but I was thinking easily texted you, that will be a red-flag inside our relationship this podcast tracking. So I failed to do this.

Drew:

Okay, continue.

Christina:

She discusses this lady ex not nonstop, but a decent amount for a first time.

Drew:

I’ve been there. Yeah, that’s good.

Christina:

Okay, which is okay. Now we will move forward. We have now gone past big date one. You said go out a person is fantastic. We are in, suppose day three today.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

You haven’t slept with each other but, that does feel crucial that you say, but according to just how today’s date goes, maybe you will.

Drew:

Have actually we made completely?

Christina:

You have got obviously made completely.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

You are not ten years old, seriously now.

Drew:

We have surely been on basic times where we didn’t find out, but that is cool yeah.

Christina:

I stated next time, so…

Drew:

Oh correct, ok. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Christina:

She informs you that she doesn’t obviously have a position just as much as she is merely affluent and looking for inspiration, anywhere she will believe it is.

Drew:

Okay, which means this surely forces me towards like, i am shedding interest, but I’m going to stay on the time.

Christina:

You’re going to stay on the big date?

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

That’s great. The second red-flag, she tells you, once more, on date three, that she’s got perhaps not skipped a Coachella nor a Burning guy since she was 17.

Drew:

I am on my way out the door, yet not literally.

Christina:

Okay, okay.

Drew:

I’ve determined that I am not planning to have intercourse with this particular individual.

Christina:

You’re only — fine you decided you’re not heading have intercourse.

Drew:

But i am still attending remain.

Christina:

You aren’t planning to right away wake up and then leave?

Drew:

Correct.

Christina:

So discover the following concern subsequently, are you going to, after that big date has ended after it obviously comes to an end, will you followup?

Drew:

Just how was we carrying out emotionally inside my existence?

Christina:

Well Drew, that i just can’t account you, bitch.

Drew:

I’ll say most likely not, but section of me wants to determine if you really have another foot, the following point you’re going to state is, is maybe, truly.

Christina:

Okay, thus had you maybe not determined after wealthy and simply searching.

Drew:

Discover finished .. If someone else was in fact to each and every Coachella and Burning guy and ended up being somewhat much less determined about any of it — it is the commitment to, “i really could never ever miss this,” combined with the, “i am merely wealthy and don’t have work.”

Christina:

Yeah Drew, I made a nightmare for your family.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

That’s what I became undertaking, which was the intention.

Drew:

I just don’t want whoever has visited Coachella, Really don’t want them to feel — or Burning Man also — like it’s great, I’m not judging you. I Simply, anyhow—

Christina:

I am slightly.

Drew:

Okay, fantastic. What is the next thing, what was the second thing you used to be planning to say?

Christina:

Therefore think about subsequently, you probably did perhaps not keep that date, maybe you slept with each other. Perhaps you did.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Imagine if you are like a month into this and she is a person who merely doesn’t reply to messages for a full a couple of days sometimes and reappears with no description?

Drew:

Oh see, which is fantastic. That will get me, that could create me personally, that would drive myself nuts and I is engrossed.

Christina:

And that is the thing that you’ll be into, positive. Okay. Therefore say you’ve been matchmaking for a few months and she tells you she’s never look over whatever you’ve composed?

Drew:

Ooh, that is fascinating. I just have no idea how we would make it happen because I’m a bit ridiculous and I feel there are plenty of times in which I’ll be having a conversation with some body and stay like, “Oh, really We composed a bit about that. I’m able to send it to you if you want to know.” So like, I guess—

Christina:

Yes, I’m sure that about you, it turns out.

Drew:

Therefore it will mean that like, did she lie pertaining to checking out all of them? Performed she simply say, “Oh, we’ll read it,” and that I did not followup because I am not that obnoxious? I might say… but if i am internet dating this person for three several months, absolutely really more happening there psychologically that like — because I don’t date folks for three several months. We both embark on two dates with somebody or You will find outdated all of them for a while, generally there need to be something that’s truly unique truth be told there. Thus I don’t believe — I think I would personallyn’t can 3 months with this specific person.

Christina:

No, I don’t imagine might possibly. I simply wanted to see what you’ll react to any particular one. The Past one I Experienced had been that you were internet dating for six months and she met all your family members and she became extremely near together and started spending time with all of them without letting you know, and I ended up being like, that feels as though—

Drew:

Yeah, that would never ever happen.

Christina:

Past an acceptable limit.

Drew:

Unless she was actually a right woman somehow, therefore next…

Christina:

Well, crazier things have taken place, Drew.

Drew:

That will be the most significant red flag of most.

Christina:

I believe this was actually informative. I do believe something’s fun about each of the video games that people’ve starred for each and every additional, is the fact that the two of all of us were like, “Ooh, but i want a little bit of context, like what’s happening during my existence that i am generating most of these selections?” And that’s fundamentally maybe not area of the game that we’re carrying out, but…

Drew:

But now it really is.

Christina:

Today its, today really.

Drew:

Very yeah.

Christina:

And from now on we can discuss our primary topic, which I believe is going to be truly interesting, mostly personally as someone who does not do everything we’re going to talk about. And everything we’re planning to discuss is DM sliding, Instagram matchmaking.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

All of that particular fun hoe crap.

Drew:

Insta Story related matchmaking? I’m additionally thrilled. I do repeat this thing a large amount, but i’m thrilled because i will study from a professional, all of our guest, Shelli Nicole.

Christina:

All of our visitor, Shelli, i simply want everyone to get their own arms with each other for Shelli Nicole. Ah, the group goes wild.

Shelli:

Hold off, is it possible to chat now?

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Yeah, positively.

Drew:

You wish to present your self, Shelli?

Christina:

You should tell us about yourself? Reveal who you are, tell us what your price is.

Shelli:

Yeah. Okay, yeah. My personal deal, my personal bargain. I am Shelli, I will be community publisher at Autostraddle, freelance creator elsewhere, super dyke, very afraid of mermaids, youngsters, and mermaids which are youngsters in particular. So yeah, that’s my small lovely price. I am hot.

Christina:

Can verify.

Drew:

Yes, can confirm.

Shelli:

Thank you so much.

Christina:

Famously an audio method, but i simply wish verify for audience.

Shelli:

Why we put that nowadays, in the event. I wish to take all of them in. Yeah, but that’s me personally.

Christina:

Yeah, positively. We are therefore excited to possess you on in order to talk about this, due to the fact again, it isn’t really something i really do. I understand it really is a thing that Drew does. I am aware this can be a Drew hobby. So perhaps we ought to begin here. It never is like a super severe pastime, it feels like a fun time activity, more than a what’s really going to come of your knowledge. Very, style of talk to myself in what happens in the DM slides as well as the Instagram stories as well as the social networking you kids are jibber jabbering in regards to, we’ll you should be grandpa over here.

Shelli:

Drew, do you wish to get very first?

Drew:

Oh, really i’m like we maybe agree with this, correct me if I’m wrong, but In my opinion Instagram is best queer internet dating app.

Shelli:

A lot of per cent. Simple fact is that greatest.

Christina:

We have heard this from other queers.

Shelli:

Positively. It provides you literally all you need, except if somebody’s exclusive, but even although you’re private, baby, I’ll learn about you in a number of type way. Adore it is the better.

Drew:

Hold off, i wish to hear more and more that. I would like to notice a little more about that for the reason that it’s like my — I don’t know what direction to go. When people tend to be personal in addition they struck on myself. I am like, I can’t do just about anything along with you. Like, sorry.

Shelli:

Precisely what do you need us to do because of this? Thus often 50per cent of the time once I stumble upon someone that’s exclusive to their main page, within bio they either have an internet site or they have an at to whatever they carry out IRL. Lately, this occurred practically perhaps two days in the past, this chef hottie slid within my DMs, and I was love, “Great, I do not make, you’re sizzling hot, why don’t we see what this about.” Boom, exclusive. And I said Goddamn, but in their unique bio they’d a link on their site, then again they had the ats of their chef page in the restaurant that they work for, so needless to say I went truth be told there and that I’m want, ok, making this the cafe. They’re like head chef here, naturally they are going to be tagged someplace in the pictures.

Christina:

Appropriate.

Shelli:

Very I quickly returned to the woman web page, viewed the woman photograph, I was like, i believe I got a little bit of just who this might be. After that went to the bistro web page, definitely found their, after that struck upwards those tagged pictures.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Shelli:

In which case her pals label the woman inside, and I only held checking out the restaurant’s page until I found enough photos where I happened to be like, “Yeah, I’d make out with you,” after which We went back on the DM and I was actually like, “Oh, so tell me more!” Like, I don’t know every thing currently.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

This is incredible.

Shelli:

Yeah, it is a fun game. Yeah, a sapphic sleuth, if you will. I love it.

Christina:

We definitely will, please see Shelli’s spinoff podcast,

Sapphic Sleuths.

Can’t await that.

Shelli:

Legitimate with really love, if individuals were to send me things like, “Oh, this individual’s blocked.” Kid, I got you. I’d like to let you, i acquired you, 10 minutes. 15 minutes, ten bucks. I acquired you.

Christina:

Includes a tagline and everything, i really like it. Drew, what is the MO? Like, what is actually the vibe? How do you do this?

Drew:

On Instagram?

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Yeah, hm, which is an extremely great question. Personally I think like i truly will not follow straight back unless someone actually personal, which has been generally how I function. I don’t know, it seems — you’re appropriate, truly low limits in the sense that, I’m not sure. If someone’s hot and they stick to myself and they seem cool, i am going to follow them back, but i shall also say because of — this is so that foolish because I have like 4,000 supporters or something like that, it isn’t, I do not have most followers, but because Autostraddle is out there in a certain world within the homosexual net, I’ve had are a little more… I am not sure, there’s a vibe that I can collect, i believe occasionally, of whether I’m… I feel as if you’re doing all of your own situations, you are hot, you are cool. And also, that’s most likely exactly who I’d be into, is actually someone who has unique life and it is doing their own things. And it doesn’t feel an admirer thing?

Christina:

Exactly.

Drew:

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